In this episode of But Why? A Design Podcast, Eugene and Stirling are joined by Jonathan Lake, Director of GA Architecture, member of Curtin University’s School of Design Advisory Board, and Adjunct Fellow at the University of Notre Dame Australia.
Jonathan has spent many years designing outcomes that place people at the centre of the built environment, through private residences, public spaces, social housing, community buildings and commercial workplace projects. Throughout his career he has challenged the traditional separation between architecture and interior design, believing that great buildings are ultimately judged by how they make people feel and function, not simply by how they look.
Together, we explore the topic of: Why does architecture need interior design?
Our conversation explores the relationship between architecture and interiors, why these disciplines have become increasingly siloed, and how reconnecting them can lead to more meaningful, adaptable and human-centred places. Jonathan shares why designing for experience should begin long before finishes are selected, and why empathy, collaboration and curiosity remain some of the most powerful design tools available.
This episode touches on:
Why people experience buildings primarily from the inside, making interior thinking fundamental to great architecture.
How architecture and interior design have become increasingly separated through education, procurement and industry structures.
Why designing for human experience should begin during the earliest stages of briefing and concept development, not after development approval.
The importance of designing for everyday life rather than simply creating iconic buildings.
How collaboration between architects, interior designers and other specialists creates stronger long-term project outcomes.
Why adaptability allows buildings to remain relevant as users, technology and communities evolve.
The role empathy, listening and stakeholder engagement play in creating spaces that genuinely improve people’s lives.
Lessons from projects ranging from social housing and community facilities through to commercial workplaces and cultural buildings.
Why great design isn’t about protecting professional boundaries, but about solving problems together.
We hope you enjoy.
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Show Links
Curtin University School of Design & Built Environment
University of Notre Dame Australia
